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Straight Dope Classic from Cecil's storehouse of human knowledge23-Feb-1990
Dear Cecil:
This is important! What are the Roman numerals for 1990? Possible
solutions: (1) MXM, (2) MCMXC, or the cumbersome (3) MDCCCCLXXXX.
Help! --Anonymous, Chicago
Dear Anonymous:
This IS urgent. For the better part of a decade now sweaty movie
moguls have wrestled with a desperate riddle: how the hell do we
style the date at the end of the credits?
Well, much as I'd like to cash in selling Roman-numeral
consulting services to Hollywood, this time you guys are on your
own. There is not now nor has there ever been any universally
accepted method of styling Roman numerals.
For that matter, it's
only been in the last few hundred years that there's been any
general agreement on what symbols stand for which quantities.
In school, for instance, you may have learned that the Romans used
M for 1,000 because it stood for the Latin mille, thousand. Wrong
on two counts: many authorities think it's only coincidence that
the number M happened to look like the letter M (ditto for C =
100--it's unlikely C stood for centum, hundred).
In any case, as often
as not, the Romans indicated 1,000 not with M but either the lazy-8
infinity symbol or else something along the lines of (I)--that is,
a vertical stroke framed by exaggerated parentheses.
Grade school teachers often tell their students that the Romans
adopted the so-called subtractive principle, i.e., IV = 5-1 = 4, in
order to save themselves the trouble of chiseling extra strokes in
the stone.
But it turns out the subtractive system was used only
sporadically by the ancient Romans and their medieval successors
and never in a systematic way.
Comb through old documents and
inscriptions and you'll find such erratic usages as LXL, 90;
XXCIII, 83; LXXIIX, 78; and even IIIIX, 6. A popular German
arithmetic textbook published in 1524 gives 99 as XCIX, but even
today you'll find some people who'll hold out for IC.
So where does this leave us? Well, if we are truly desperate for
moral guidance, we may turn to the world of computers.
Cecil
happens to have a desktop publishing program known as Xerox Ventura
Publisher, an amazing bit of software that I believe was used
originally to torture heretics during the Inquisition
Among other
things it will convert numbers up to 9,999 into Roman numerals for
use as page numbers.
Punching in 1990, we come up with MCMXC, an unsurprising and
somehow comforting result. But if we then try 1999, we get MIM. Why
MIM for 1999 and not MXM for 1990? Lord knows.
Worse, if we enter
9,999 we get what appears to be IZ. I have scoured my reference
books in vain for any indication that Z was ever used for 10,000,
which moves me to write the whole thing off as the product of
malicious computer geekery, an impression that actually trying to
use Ventura will certainly strengthen.
No doubt all this numerological uncertainty is distressing. But
look on the bright side: it also gives us a strange and terrible
freedom.
You can use any damn notation for 1990 you want to, and no
one will be able to say you're wrong. It may not give you the same
rush as dancing on the Berlin Wall, but in post-Reagan America you
make do with what you get.
THE ROMAN NUMERAL DILEMMA: FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS
Dear Cecil:
Just to continue the investigation of what word processor
algorithms do with Roman numerals, I put Microsoft Word to the
test.
1990: MCMXC, as with Ventura
1999: MCMXCIX rather than Ventura's MIM--clumsy but methodical
9999 and other big numbers: interestingly, it substitutes a
question mark for the hypothetical 5,000 and 10,000 symbols.
Clever, no? --Peter Norton (yes, THAT Peter Norton), Santa Monica,
California
Cecil replies:
Peter, what we need is a good utility to get this mess cleaned up.
You prove my point--there is no universally accepted method for
writing Roman numerals. Judging from TV shows I've seen, the
broadcast industry has settled on the conservative MCMXC as the
basic style for the 1990s. But what the hell, some fearless
iconoclast may yet go for broke with MXM.
--CECIL ADAMS
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