Who owns my garbage?

September 25, 2009

Dear Cecil:

Some years ago I read about a slightly loony "garbologist" who liked to go through people's trash, including that of one person in particular — Mr. Robert Zimmerman of Woodstock, New York, aka Bob Dylan, rebel poet of a generation, blah blah blah. One day when said garbologist was busy in the trash cans in front of Dylan's Woodstock home, the songwriter supposedly spotted him, came tearing out of the house with the first blunt object that came to hand — a bicycle pump — and whacked the researcher upside the head with it.

If this story is true, it increases my already considerable respect for Bob Dylan. But it also brings up a question: What’s the ownership status of trash? When I put it out in front of my house for pickup, is it still my property and is someone rifling through it guilty of trespassing and theft? Or is it abandoned and, as such, fair game for any passing "researcher"? Does it belong to the outfit that hauls it away? If I accidentally discarded a sack of hundred-dollar bills, would the trash company be required to give them back?

Cecil replies:

We'll get to the legalities in a moment, Alex. First, however, we need to review the fact situation, as the lawyers say.

The part about the garbologist, A.J. Weberman, going through Dylan's trash is true, although as far as I can tell the scene of his garbage-picking exploits wasn't Woodstock but Greenwich Village, where Dylan lived on and off in the 60s and 70s. The two men have definitely had words, and allegedly had worse. In a 2001 Rolling Stone article Weberman says he had made peace with Dylan sometime around 1971 but still craved publicity and so soon returned to Dylan's trash. Was Dylan understanding? Weberman says no: "Dylan's wife comes out and starts screaming about me going through the garbage. Dylan said if I ever fucked with his wife, he'd beat the shit out of me. A couple of days later, I'm on Elizabeth Street and someone jumps me, starts punching me. I turn around and it's like — Dylan. I'm thinking, 'Can you believe this? I'm getting the crap beat out of me by Bob Dylan!'"

I've never been a big Dylan fan, but if this account is accurate I too am obliged to regard him with respect. Still, one feels the need to say: Bob. This creep is the living definition of pathetic. What worse punishment could you have administered to him than he'd already done to himself?

Now to the case law. Does Dylan have a right to complain about Weberman's intrusions? Straight Dope staff attorney Gfactor says it depends. If your trash is still on your property, nobody but the trash collector can come in and paw through it. However, most jurisdictions consider possessions abandoned once you set them out at the curb, in the alley, etc. Some specifics:

  • The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled police don't need a warrant to search trash left at the curb (in legal terms, "outside the curtilage" — i.e., outside your private domain, sometimes but not always denoted by the property line). Police officer Gina Hoesly of Portland, Oregon, learned this firsthand when fellow officers searched her garbage, found drug residue and a pipe, and busted her. Hoesly’s lawyers argued her rights were broader under the Oregon constitution, and the state's court of appeals agreed. Unfortunately for other Oregonians who throw out pipes and drug residue, the cops merely changed tactics and began enlisting the help of the garbage companies, and state courts have now held police can search trash once it's picked up.
  • Given the rising value of recyclables, many jurisdictions are passing antiscavenging laws making your trash city property once you dump it at the curb, at which point no one but a city employee can legally remove it.
  • In a related matter — I tell you, this is a subject with wide ramifications — the city of Rancho Mirage, California, sought to stop local businesses from selling their recyclables to a commercial firm and instead required them to turn the stuff over to the city's chosen recycler. Basically the court ruled waste, by definition, is worthless. Since the businesses were selling it, it wasn't worthless; therefore, they were within their rights to do so. Justice triumphs again.

Can you retrieve something you threw out by accident? Generally, yes — legally you can't abandon something by mistake. Gfactor found a story about a radium needle accidentally discarded by a hospital; it was recovered after investigators realized it must have been eaten by one of 500 pigs at the dump, then divided the pigs into successively smaller groups until they found (and subsequently butchered) the one with the radium. Granted, this tale has zero juridical relevance, but it gives us an idea to help out Bob D. Salting your garbage with radium is problematic, but how about feeding it to 500 pigs? Weberman might still go through the result, but my feeling is, whether he does or not, either way you win.

Related Posts with Thumbnails

References

"$3,000 Vial Of Radium Recovered from Pig." New York Times 27 Aug. 1935

California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988): http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=486&invol=35#t4

Hendrie, Edward. "Curtilage: the expectation of privacy in the yard." The FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin April 1998. Findarticles.com. 9 Aug. 2009 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_n4_v67/ai_20576402/

Jacobsen, Mark. "Tangled Up in Bob." Rolling Stone 12 April 2001. Rollingstone.com 26 March 2001. 8 Aug. 2009 http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/5932153

Lydgate, Chris & Nick Budnick, "RUBBISH! Portland's top brass said it was OK to swipe your garbage--so we grabbed theirs." Willamette Week Online, wweek.com 24 Dec. 2002, 8 Aug. 2009 http://wweek.com/editorial/2908/3485/

Photo of Weberman going through Dylan's trash reprinted at bobdylanroots.com. 12 Aug. 2009 http://www.bobdylanroots.com/94mac.html

State v. Galloway, 109 P.3d 383 (Or. Ct. App. 2004) http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/A121922A.htm

State v. Howard, 157 P.3d 1189 (Or. 2007) http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S53429.htm

Recent Additions:

A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams
A Straight Dope Classic by Cecil Adams

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope! Your direct line to thou- sands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope? Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2014 Sun-Times Media, LLC.