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Dear Straight Dope:
Where did the phrase "soup to nuts," which I believe means from
start to finish, come from? --Rich, Hebron, CT
SDSTAFF Songbird replies:
According to my Dictionary of Idioms:
From Soup to Nuts
Meaning: the whole thing from beginning to end
Origin: For centuries, any foods served at the beginning or end
of a meal stood for the entire thing: the start and finish and
everything in between. This expression was "from eggs to apples"
and "from pottage to cheese." In the United States in the middle
of the 20th century, the expression developed into "from soup to
nuts." At many meals, soup is often the first course and a dessert
with nuts is sometimes the last. The expression does not have to
refer to only to meals, however. It could be the selection of
goods for sale or classes offered.
SDSTAFF Dogster adds:
The Oxford English Dictionary gives these citations:
phrase: (from) soup to nuts (US colloq), from beginning to end,
completely; everything.
1920: C Mathewson "Won in Ninth" 143: He knew the game from 'soup
to nuts.'
1938: H Asbury "Sucker's Progress" 16: For many years a common
expression was 'from soda to hock', meaning the whole thing, from
soup to nuts.
1946: E O'Neill "Iceman Cometh" 79: I know all about that game from
soup to nuts.
1964: F. O'Rourke "Mule for Marquesa" 42: 'Everything here we asked
for?' 'Soup to nuts, nothing but the best.'
Not exciting. But dig a little deeper, and we find this:
Hock: In the game of faro, the last card remaining in the box
after all the others have been dealt.
Soda: (paraphrasing) in the game of faro, the first card out of
the box.
So, from soda to hock would be from the first card to the last
card, hence, from beginning to end.
1902: H.L. Wilson "Spenders" 49: Young Bines played the deal
from soda to hock.
Maybe not the answer we were looking for, but interesting
anyway.
SDSTAFF Lara concludes:
I don't know if the Dictionary of Idioms explanation rings
quite true for me. Desserts that contain nuts are *sometimes*
served? Groan.
According to most of the British authors I read, the last course of
a meal is port and nuts. But only for the men, I believe. I think
the women had to go sequester themselves elsewhere and drink coffee
or something until the men got tired of drinking port and joined
them. Which of course begs the question, how did *that* get
started? At any rate this is a British custom, and "from soup to
nuts" is an American idiom. But still it seems clear that in some
form or another nuts were considered the last course in a good
meal, while soup was the first. And I think that covers this one
from soup to nuts.
--SDSTAFF Songbird, SDSTAFF Dogster, and SDSTAFF Lara
Straight Dope Science Advisory Board
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